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Fullerton Cops Manuel Ramos & Jay Cicinelli Charged with Murder, Manslaughter in Death of Homeless Schizophrenic Kelly Thomas

Two Fullerton, California police officers have been charged with murder and manslaughter for the brutal death of a mentally ill homeless man in July.

Ramos & Cicinelli.

According to the Los Angeles Times, Fullerton police officers Manuel Ramos and Jay Cicinelli have been charged for the death of Kelly Thomas, who was 37 years old. Ramos has been charged with second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter; Cicinelli stands charged with involuntary manslaughter and excessive use of force.

Orange County District Attorney Tony Rackauckas announced the charges today, telling the press that the department had reviewed 151 witness statements, video evidence of Thomas’ beating, medical reports and statements from police officers. The Los Angeles Times said that the district attorney’s office had been awaiting a coroner’s report on the cause of Thomas’ death before deciding on what legal action to take against the officers involved.

According to the Orange County RegisterFullerton police were responding to reports of a “homeless-looking man” who may have been attempting to burglarize cars near a bus depot in the southern California city on July 5. Officers spotted Thomas, who fit the description, and attempted to search him. Thomas resisted, and according to witnesses, multiple officers beat him with a baton and repeatedly Tasered him, even after he stopped resisting.

“They kept beating him and Tasering him. I could hear zapping, and he wasn’t even moving,” witness Mark Turgeon told ABC 7. ”He had one arm in front of him like this, he wasn’t resisting. And they kept telling him, ‘He’s resisting, quit resisting,’ and he wasn’t resisting.”

In a video of the incident recorded by a bystander, Thomas can be heard crying for his father while being viciously attacked. He was rushed to the hospital but died five days later after being taken off life support.

Thomas’ father, former Orange County Sheriff’s Deputy Ron Thomas, told reporters that after seeing how badly his son was beaten and interviewing witnesses, he concluded that Kelly “was brutally beaten to death.”

Kelly Thomas after his encounter with Fullerton police.

“When I first walked into the hospital, I looked at what his mother described as my son… I didn’t recognize him,” he said. “This is cold-blooded, aggravated murder.”

According to the Los Angeles Times, the Thomas family attorney released hospital records showing Kelly suffered brain injuries, a shattered nose and cheekbone, broken ribs and severe internal bleeding. The records confirmed that Thomas had been repeatedly Tasered, including in the chest by his heart.

Hospital records also show that Thomas tested negative for drugs and alcohol, and that the cause of death was due to brain trauma.

UPDATE: The Los Angeles Times reports that Officer Ramos is heard on a police audio recording telling Thomas “See my fists? They are getting ready to fuck you up.”



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  1. jim happenstanceSeptember 22, 2011 at 7:25 amReply

    “Involuntary?!” If I ever go to Fullerton, I’ll be sure to shoot instead of stop in order to avoid an “accident” like this one.

  2. TesticlesSeptember 22, 2011 at 12:48 pmReply

    Cocksuckers !!

  3. MonicaSeptember 29, 2011 at 7:08 amReply

    Often, police officers choose that career to protect us, the public, do honestly attempt to make our cities a better place. But it is proven fact, that many police officers ( as opposed to say firemen) have the same psychological profile as gang members…testosterone driven, ego driven,violencedriven. Anyonenotice that ramos looks exactly likea gang member? Unfortunately this loserwas in a positionof power that day. Look harder and you will find at he has probably beaten up his wifeora girlfriendinthe past. Maybe he should use that extra energy to go to thr gym so he is actually able to be fit to run after real criminals… Fat bastard, preying onthoseweaker than him.

  4. DeanSeptember 29, 2011 at 10:39 amReply

    The Two Political Party Traitor and their minions of paper pushing drones, rubber stamping gavel liars and thieves, and their thugs with guns STEAL everything you own and kick you to the curb with ‘paper’ they call ‘services’ for BRUTALITY by their thugs with guns. Millions of AMericans have & continue to be VICTIMS; Join in the Protest on Wall Street and lets BUST them in their WALLETS. Pull out ALL investments in Wall STreets and lets SHUT DOWN this criminal enterprise in partnership with government/politicians that make their crimes LEGAL to be PREDATORS against the Citizenship.

  5. SpenglerOctober 23, 2011 at 2:16 pmReply

    Ya, itsn ot he was Rodney King and had it coming…

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