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Kelly Thomas, Homeless Schizophrenic, Beaten to Death by Fullerton, CA Police… Victim’s Ex-Cop Father Calls it “Cold-Blooded Murder”

Barbarians with badges.


Kelly Thomas, a homeless schizophrenic, was brutally beaten to death by Fullerton, California police earlier this month.

According to the Orange County Register, Fullerton police were responding to reports of a “homeless-looking man” who may have been attempting to burglarize cars near a bus depot in the southern California city on July 5. Officers spotted Thomas, who fit the description, and attempted to search him.

The mentally ill 37-year-old resisted the search. According to witnesses, officers struck him on the back of a leg with a baton and Tasered him. The suspect attempted to flee, but two officers caught him. Although Thomas wasn’t moving, officers still beat him with flashlights and Tasered him again.

“They kept beating him and Tasering him. I could hear zapping, and he wasn’t even moving,” witness Mark Turgeon told ABC 7. “He had one arm in front of him like this, he wasn’t resisting. And they kept telling him, ‘He’s resisting, quit resisting,’ and he wasn’t resisting.”

In an eyewitness video of the beating (posted below), Thomas is heard crying for his father while being Tasered.

The badly beaten man was rushed to UCI Medical Center in Orange, suffering from head and neck injuries. He was so severely battered that he was placed on life support. He died five days later, on July 10.

The victim’s father, former Orange County Sheriff’s Deputy Ron Thomas, told reporters that after seeing how badly his son was beaten and interviewing witnesses, he concluded that Kelly “was brutally beaten to death.”

“When I first walked into the hospital, I looked at what his mother described as my son… I didn’t recognize him,” he said. “This is cold-blooded, aggravated murder.”

“There is no explanation for it,” he added. “I call it rogue bad cops, not the Fullerton Police Department. There is no justification for beating someone to death.”

Ron Thomas added that his son probably stopped taking his schizophrenia medication at the time of the deadly police encounter.

According to Gawker, some who knew Kelly Thomas described him as “very quiet and polite,” “gentle and a childlike,” “sweet,” and “never a threat.” He did, however, plead guilty to assault with a deadly weapon– 16 years ago.

Witnesses are being asked to call investigator Stan Berry of the Orange County District Attorney’s office at (714) 347-8813.

In the video below, an ABC 7 reporter claims officers suffered “broken bones” while subduing and apprehending Thomas. That is not true; according to the Fullertonian, Fullerton Police Sergeant Andrew Goodrich confirmed there were no broken bones, only “soft tissue damage…” in other words, bruises.

UPDATE: On September 21, 2011, two Fullerton police officers were charged in the death of Kelly Thomas: Manuel Ramos was charged with second degree murder and involuntary manslaughter; Jay Cicinelli was charged with involuntary manslaughter and excessive use of force. According to the Los Angeles Times, a police audio recording from Officer Ramos himself revealed that at the beginning of the fatal encounter, Ramos told Thomas: “See my fists? They’re getting ready to fuck you up.”

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  1. RubyJuly 28, 2011 at 9:42 pmReply

    I hope all those cops get charged with murder.Then thier family can feel what it is like to lose a loved one.R>I>P

    • Marilyn Van DykeJuly 31, 2011 at 10:13 pmReply

      I hope that those officers go to jail for murder, because that is what it is.

      Also, why aren’t all of these officers on leave now? I don’t want my tax dollars paying for murderers.

      • Nanette ValenciaMay 17, 2012 at 11:13 pmReply

        I couldn’t agree with you more. It’s insulting that our tax dollars are paying for criminals like these cops.

    • Debbie VillaAugust 4, 2011 at 12:49 pmReply

      My heart aches for this young man and what his family is going through- God Bless you Kelly Thomas

  2. Betty FokkerJuly 29, 2011 at 10:07 amReply

    I sincerely hope those cops go away for murder. I am sure they will be VERY popular in prison.

  3. leticiaJuly 29, 2011 at 2:48 pmReply

    Why did the gawkers and witnesses not approach the police while this was happening? It only takes one person to make a difference.

    • Brett WilkinsJuly 29, 2011 at 3:58 pmReplyAuthor

      They were probably afraid that the cops would beat them to death too.

      • jim happenstanceAugust 17, 2011 at 11:57 amReply

        I certainly would be afraid. These pigs had the taste of blood in their mouths and had become unstable.

    • An Elephant's Child.August 6, 2011 at 1:30 amReply

      There were six armed cops, it would have taken more than one person to stop them & all of those people would have been charged with assaulting the police.
      It is not easy for an ordinary citizen to stop police brutality, because the police are always assumed to be in the right.
      The law should police the police.
      This sort of thing should be stopped by making an example of these & any other cop who crosses the line.
      They should all be in prison.

    • Nanette ValenciaMay 17, 2012 at 11:15 pmReply

      I heard that there were people yelling for the cops to stop. You can’t stop killers when they’re on a feeding frenzy

  4. JamesJuly 29, 2011 at 5:35 pmReply

    maybe if he wasnt breaking in to cars, this would have never happened?

    • Brett WilkinsJuly 29, 2011 at 6:09 pmReplyAuthor

      Since when is getting beaten to death a suitable punishment for breaking into cars? Maybe next time you get pulled over for speeding, the cops will clobber you to within an inch of your life. Maybe if you weren’t speeding…

      • Laura StephensJuly 30, 2011 at 7:01 pmReply

        Awesome response. Thanks for saying what I was thinking, Brett.

        • CarmelliaAugust 3, 2011 at 2:59 pmReply

          I agree with Brett thats exactly what I was thinking. Plus you are always ‘Innocent until proven guilty”

      • MariyaAugust 3, 2011 at 8:54 pmReply

        Well said Brett!

      • PattyAugust 12, 2011 at 10:18 pmReply

        great response! Cold blooded murder! Just plain SICK! 🙁

    • j hJuly 30, 2011 at 4:56 amReply

      Maybe if these disgusting pigs weren’t murderous brutes this would never have happened?

      Why do you place the responsibility for this atrocity on the mentally ill victim instead of the expensively trained policemen?

    • LynneJuly 30, 2011 at 10:00 amReply

      breaking the law does not give anyone the right to beat you to death and there isn’t even any evidence that he was doing that. He fit the description of the person. Innocent till proven guilty. Your blaming the victim.

      • LynneJuly 30, 2011 at 10:03 amReply

        and futher more look at the pic, should anyone look like that, even after resisting? I think not. There are good officers out there but more and more it seems like the force is making bad choices, seeing way to much of this kinda thing. The sentence for robbery is NOT death!

    • jenJuly 31, 2011 at 3:45 pmReply

      you should be a little more educated on this murder, he was not breaking into cars. he was a harmless man i knew him for several years. even if there was a chance he was the suspect breaking into cars, should the FPD beat him to death? absolutely not worth someones life!

    • RobertAugust 11, 2011 at 9:01 amReply

      It isn’t clear that Thomas was breaking into cars; in fact, I won’t believe there was even a 911 call about car burglary until I actually hear the tape. Even if there was a call, there was no actual crime committed by anyone, no reports of any cars actually being broken into. There was certainly a homocide committed that night, that’s for sure.

      • climber777July 24, 2012 at 1:22 pmReply

        That’s exactly what I was thinking.

        I’m also sure police are coached (by each other if not the department) to keep yelling “stop resisting” over and over as they pummel people, because you hear it in every police violence video.

        People run from and resist police, because they know what can and does happen.

        I hate seeing the police, it doesn’t make me feel any safer.

        I’m sure his parents are devastated by this. Too bad nobody was helping him enough with his illness.

        I wonder if he really was homeless (what does a homeless person “look like” and why is that an automatic reason to approach them for questioning?

    • JoAugust 23, 2011 at 7:26 pmReply

      Reliable sources say there never was a call to 911 regarding anyone breaking into cars. The Fullerton police have so far refused to release any evidence that the “phone call” ever came. Trusting a cop is like sending your kid camping with Father Murphy.

    • Nanette ValenciaMay 17, 2012 at 11:16 pmReply

      He wasn’t breaking into cars. There is zero evidence of that

    • LolyAugust 22, 2012 at 1:50 pmReply

      How can you say that? Even if he was breaking in to cars, he never deserved ro be beaten to death. What`s on your head James

    • IanDecember 21, 2012 at 8:11 pmReply

      Oh yeah, because the one thing the article goes on and on about is all the evidence they have linking him to breaking into cars… Wouldn’t it be pretty easy to prove? I mean he would have had the missing items on his person. Soooo I’m gonna go ahead and say he was just homeless. Way to side with the most corrupt group of people in america. You prolly get a half chub everytime you hear police sirens

  5. GeorgeJuly 30, 2011 at 8:24 pmReply

    The board of inquiry will determine that the police were justified in using force to subdue the person who was a danger to the officers and to other people nearby. We live in a police state people, hello? They can and do kill us whenever they feel like it.

    • BobbySeptember 24, 2011 at 6:24 pmReply

      They make me sick,too see that we all risk are life in many difrent ways not just cops, they hold guns we dont, so we are in more risk, they get piad we dont???????

  6. ErinJuly 31, 2011 at 11:09 amReply

    This just makes me sick. My schizophrenic brother has been missing for 2 months now and we have no idea where he is. When i heard this I thought it was him. Where the heck is “Protect and Serve” anymore?! This makes me fear for my brother’s life even more. I was afraid of him getting murdered by someone else; Now I have to be afraid of something happening to him because of the cops?? This is appalling.

  7. MarkAugust 1, 2011 at 2:08 pmReply

    Maybe now people will start to believe you have rogue cops out there that go past what the law requires. In some cases – it’s down right criminal! This is one of those cases. Black folks have been saying it for years.

  8. BartAugust 2, 2011 at 12:52 pmReply

    Just another day at the office for 4 of Fullerton’s finest.

  9. david turajskiAugust 2, 2011 at 6:47 pmReply

    I would like to rip the six Fullerton officers new assholes for what they did to the mentally ill man.

    • PattyAugust 12, 2011 at 10:19 pmReply

      you and me both!!!

  10. DonAugust 2, 2011 at 11:15 pmReply

    The officers responsible should be placed in stocks in front of City Hall, and then beaten in a similar manner and to the some condition as Kelly Thomas. That would be justice.

  11. NatashaAugust 3, 2011 at 9:48 amReply

    SHAME!!!!! SHAME!!! SHAME!!!!!

  12. George Vreeland HillAugust 3, 2011 at 11:09 amReply

    That was horrible.
    The police should be tried for murder.

    George Vreeland Hill

  13. John DurbinAugust 3, 2011 at 12:00 pmReply

    This stuff happens all of the time. The real tragedy is people have to die from police brutality, innocent or not, for people to know about it.

    I hope the cops and families involved get some sort of justice, but based on all past cases, it would not surprize me if they get a slap on the wrist and some asshole backing it up by saying they did not want to ruin the reputation of the officers.

    Here’s a documentary about Police Brutality. It shows many other cases like this, and some other weird shit cops do to protect eachother.

  14. janeAugust 4, 2011 at 9:38 amReply

    This makes my heart hurt. Such a sad story.

  15. The BAugust 4, 2011 at 8:29 pmReply

    Many call this the actions of a set of “Rogue Officers.” I have been in law enforcement and can tell you that if these cops are “Rogue,” then every department has members w/ this mentality. There are good officers, but there are also ones just like these guys EVERYWHERE. This is one of the MANY resons that I am now a school teacher. Consider yourselves warned.

  16. CopkAugust 5, 2011 at 12:07 amReply

    honestly when are we all gonna realize that cops are abusing their rights way too much i hope everyone rights against this fuck this b/s every one reading this look at how many cops over these past years killed or hurt innocent for no reason its time to take a stand these are the people who are suppose to be protecting us i said it before and ill say it again fuck crooked cops which is most of them enough is enough!!! i hope everyone riots ill be right there!!!

  17. Nick in NJAugust 5, 2011 at 7:25 amReply

    I just heard the father on NPR’s “The Takeaway” and did a search to find this video here.

    It’s clear that that this is sheer police brutality on it’s face……..some degree of manslaughter should be charged.

    Anyone being beaten and repeatedly tased like this is going to twitch and move to avoid blows……this man was unarmed and being subdued and assaulted by 4 to 5 cops….there was no reason to keep on hitting him….especially in the head.

    While, I wasn’t a witness on the scene…..WE are all witness to the video………I took a few minutes to call in to the investigator’s phone number to let him know that there is ALREADY more than enough evidence to prosecute for aggravated assault and I dare say manslaughter.

    Also, what about the cameras in the police cars? Were they all turned off???

    Also, what about the people who were there watching and talking? Can’t they be traced from the identity of the videographer who put this up on the web?

    It’s a shame that there are millions of Americans who have to come to the conclusion that cops aren’t always the “good guys”. That, under the wrong circumstances they can become cruel brutal executioners….and that they do it out of their own fear and ignorance and petty dehumanization.

    Maybe cops who are capable of this shouldn’t be holding that job?

    Maybe the only people we should be authorizing to use deadly force on civilians should be mature, smart, self disciplined emotionally stable and decent people? Eh?

    Maybe being a cop should be reserved for the best of us….and not be a job that anyone who has a hankering to be a bully can acquire? Maybe these guys need better psych screenings and maybe those screenings need to be done monthly?

    Maybe cops should be paid 100k to start and the job should be reserved, as I said, for the BEST of us!!!

    This is just one very visible and very extreme case………but we all have encountered cops who were some combination of bully/asshole……..again, under the wrong circumstances these sick ones can become killers. We can do better than this as a society!

    I’ve drifted off the immediate topic…but it’s all connected, eh?

    Meanwhile, let’s hope that there is some justice in this case.

  18. MbmAugust 5, 2011 at 7:37 amReply

    Rest in peace Kelly Thomas….These cops should get the same treatment what they did to Kelly Thomas… We as tax payer’s will be paying for them being in jail. No mercy for these guys!!!!

    • justice seekerAugust 5, 2011 at 1:10 pmReply

      aGREE ! This is an atrocity! MY GOD!!

  19. Terrie GAugust 5, 2011 at 5:25 pmReply

    Rest In Peace Kelly Thomas. I am so sorry that you fell into the hands of Bad Cops. There is no way anyone should have to suffer like that at the hands of someone sworn to Serve and Protect.

    There will be justice in this case.

    A friend of mine in college went on to be a police officer in the town we grew up in. As he became acclimated with his new job we lost touch. He told me it was too difficult having friends outside the police dept because of how they expected him to act. He later quit because he couldn’t stand what he saw the other officers do to certain people in the community. There were, as he said, those that we knew we could pick on. Sad, sounds like this type of thing goes on everywhere. Sad. There are good cops. But when you have a bad one, you potentially have a killer. I think they all should lose their jobs, the police chief should resign, and the mayor should as well. A full house cleaning is what is needed.

  20. justice seekerAugust 5, 2011 at 5:48 pmReply

    i cry like a baby every time i look at that picture. i know he wasnt faultless, but MY GOD what were they thinking??? He barely looks HUMAN!! That poor soul 🙁

    • SandraSeptember 21, 2011 at 2:53 pmReply

      You know he wasn’t faultless? Since when does having a mental illness or defending yourself make someone faulted? If anything, this man was not only a victim of murder by people whom we are taught to trust but also the victim of a terrible mental disorder. The only fault in this tragedy is that police officers brutally and cowardly murdered a sick man. I cannot wait for these power tripping, disgraceful human beings who refer to themselves as police officers to be convicted of murder. And they shouldn’t get special treatment either, they should be places with the other hard criminals. This story is really disturbing. My heart goes out to the family.

  21. Joe ZrnchikAugust 7, 2011 at 11:16 amReply

    Why were these cold-blooded murderers and dangers to the community out on bail?

    Police are government tools of tyranny.

    We are tired of being told we are free while living in police state.

    We are tired of the talk about liberty while we have none.

    We are tired of police abuse and the court prosecutors and judges protecting police lies, abuse, torture and murder.

    We are tired of the false imprisonment and perjury by police.

    Militarism is not patriotism, nor is submission to a corrupt police state with a two-tiered justice system.

  22. PattyAugust 12, 2011 at 10:09 pmReply

    This just made my heart sink when I saw this. His face! And the video! Crying out for his dad! :(. I have a 12 year old with autism, bipolar and schizophrenia and I just can’t imagine something like this happening to him. They didn’t need to beat him to death. OMG! I hope they rot in jail for what they did. I know they are going to hell!!! Someone needs to tazer the crap out of them and beat them to death! Police really need to learn how to deal with people that are mentally ill. Offer a workshop or class on it. Something!!

  23. ondeeAugust 31, 2011 at 11:25 amReply

    dear God in heaven, please hear our plea for help.

  24. michaelSeptember 12, 2011 at 3:17 pmReply

    Riiight, like you people give your time and money to homeless causes.

    Gimme a break. Let’s be frank — this guy was a disgusting leech. A homeless piece of trash who would have made you nervous as hell had he ever sat next to you on public transit.

    He’s GROSS like almost all homeless people and it’s GOOD that he’s DEAD.

    • Brett WilkinsSeptember 12, 2011 at 9:51 pmReplyAuthor

      I am ashamed that people like yourself are counted as members of the same species as myself. But thanks for confirming what I already suspected about many right-wingers.

  25. JohnSeptember 21, 2011 at 1:49 pmReply

    I worked as a cab driver in two major cities for years. This kind of stuff is not unusual at all. One time I tried to record the cops beating a black guy outside a bar. A policemen came and smashed my camera. Just be glad that this story made the news, most of the time they don’t.

  26. FranceySeptember 22, 2011 at 1:09 pmReply

    I would just like to know why was Kelly Thomas Homeless? He has 2 living parents,and I just can’t understand why they allowed Kelly to roam the streets and get into troulbe. Rest in Peace Kelly!

  27. Outloud444September 23, 2011 at 10:40 amReply

    Freedom of Speach..even applies for me, and Kelly Thomas…(if he was alive)
    Yes..I’m bipolar’
    I get the F…ing Dr. Phil’s online that harass me.
    I get the criminal justice people online harass me.
    Now allow my messages to be posted.

    Kelly Thomas…
    There is more to the story…
    Since 2008…the US stock market has hurt many Town’s and City’s throughout America…When that takes place, all the City’s and Town’s hire more and more
    criminal justice people, to protect their Town or City’s.
    These criminal justice people are not cops, they are working for the local Town or City, to walk around, and visit all the Starbuck’s , and all the Restaurant’s, Home Depot, Lowe’s etc. These criminal justice people..can vary in age—but are paid by the local town or city…and have a 2 year degree in criminal justice..
    Many times…these criminal justice people, roam from town to town..otherwise
    people, would realize, the same person appears, over and over again..
    Many of these criminal justice people have a undergraduate degree in Psychology, and go back to school for 2 years for a criminal justice degree.
    In California they have loads of Homeless People, and they come from all over the USA, because of the warm weather, and they can live outside..
    California just closed many of the Tents, that would feed all these homeless people, and allow them a bed at night…Calif. closed all these tents to get all the homeless people to leave..(that all has taken place during the past year)
    This local town, had one or possibly 2 criminal justice people living with the homeless people, to insure they would not have any problems in their town.
    (because these people have NO money for food, and might steal)
    These homeless people collect all the plastic bottles and cans, and sell them each morning for $8.00 a bag, at the recycle place..and they get left over food, each night from Parara Bread, Mcdonald’s, Starbuck’s..when the freshness date as expired.
    These cops knew allot about Kelly Thoma, from all the criminal justice people, living with Kelly Thomas.
    these cops wanted all these Homeless People (Kelly Thomas and others) to move out of their town, and they wanted to send a message, to all the other Homeless People, to move to another State, or another town.
    The other Homeless People living in this town, got the message….and most of them moved to another town..
    This town..must of had video camera’s, to watch all these homeless people…
    and just after Kelly was killed…those criminal justice people living with all those
    homeless people, left–
    These criminal justice people, living with the homeless people, must be
    White, or Mexican (Calif. has no blacks)
    Kelly’s dad should talk to all the other homeless people, and do a background check of all those homeless people, because they know…that Kelly was murdered.

  28. Kathy MoruaOctober 12, 2011 at 8:03 pmReply

    This is really sad that someone can do something like this to another human being. Especially an officer, that we are taught to trust. This young man was sick and they took advantage of this situation.
    I am going through something like this just not as bad. My nephew was beat by the police in Victorville. He is now in jail and waiting to go to court. They broke his nose and Im not sure what else was done to him. It is just really scarey that people can do things like this and get away with it. Thank God that there were video tapes or else I dont think things would have happened as fast as they did. I am looking for some type of lawyer to help me with my situation and get more bad cops of the street. I dont know whats worse the police or the gangs.

    • BrandiJune 8, 2012 at 1:56 pmReply

      I am sorry in this day and age you can trust no one! All you have to do is watch the news and you will see a stream of corrupt cops. Sure there are still some that protective and serve but I prefer to avoid them at all costs. Even when there was a break in to my car outside of the house me and my family never called them. That’s what my husband and brothers are for, he was escorted away without any help from the police.

  29. leisha huntOctober 13, 2011 at 4:41 amReply

    This is surely a tragdy, The police officers who are responsible for this should each one go straight to prison! If people on the street would have done this they would be in jail as we speak It is a known fact that the poor man was not resisting arrest he was begging for help!!!!

  30. Bob CanadaNovember 16, 2011 at 6:46 pmReply

    As a retired cop I remember warning other cops during a meeting that if they ever use excessive force on a felon I would beat the shit out of them.
    In my whole career I never had to beat any of my partners.

  31. pedroDecember 31, 2011 at 3:03 pmReply

    Fuck d police they are here to serve and protect not to hurt us but it is reality

  32. foxxieMarch 10, 2012 at 12:59 amReply

    Lord Have Mercy. u have got kidding me. Beautiful Kelly Thomas go heaven now. DAMN COPS!!!!!!

  33. marloMarch 20, 2012 at 1:58 pmReply


  34. jennyJune 8, 2012 at 11:22 amReply

    couldn’t they really find any work other then kill a person???
    nice way to carry out your job.i hope they pay for what they did!!!!!

  35. Alfred AlemazkourJuly 15, 2012 at 7:17 pmReply

    Anyone working for the government or city that breaks law
    Should be charge 3 to 10 time more than the people in the streets.

  36. Lestavius ThomasAugust 2, 2012 at 11:47 amReply

    Thanks God…… for sending us JESUS! There is no reason for a police murder on a victim without a weapon, even then they should use their “special skills”.

  37. wayneDecember 10, 2012 at 9:16 amReply

    They should just execute them cops

  38. CharlesJune 21, 2014 at 8:48 pmReply

    You say he was “schizophrenic,” a hokey, nonfactual, nonmedical, purely conjured, psychiatric term! Will you ask psychiatrists how it is that “mental illness is like any other illness,” that their psychiatry degree gives them immunity from “mental illness?” Have any of you ever heard of any police being labeled “mentally ill?” If mental “illness” is an actual medical condition—anyone could be afflicted, same as anyone could get arthritis, wrinkles, indigestion and so forth. Psychiatrists and police are never called mentally ill, because mental “illness” is a con job sponsored by the State, and naturally the State doesn’t promote this hokey label being used on any of its sponsored attack dogs. Did you know that psychiatry used to insist that women in pants were mentally Ill? And slaves who wanted to escape had a “disease of the mind?” Psychiatry is NOT “medicine,” and its terminology is entirely fictitious.

  39. Terry WagarOctober 11, 2014 at 11:43 pmReply

    This news story is a fabricated lie by police and by the victims family!

    The victims family was poisoning the victim for years using meds to keep him docile and helpless of which authority’s and people in our government do to people all the time!

    The fact that the man was HOMELESS says a lot about the victims parents, they obviously did not care he was homeless!

    Usually cops poison off people and use their power of influence to force prescription drugs onto their victims to silence them as witnesses and to discredit them as witnesses in a court of law!

    For many decades police require people they batter to go on meds, usually Demoral, I think that is the correct spelling for it,

    Demoral deforms the face of the person that takes it, it makes normal looking people look retarded, it effects the nerves in the persons face, something your police and your doctors and your news media does not want you to know about.

    If this person was homeless, being labeled Schizophrenic, then the parents don’t give a damn about their son and wanted to discredit him as a witness with the Schizzo accusation.

    Accusing people of mental illness is COMMON with law enforcement, all officer’s label people they do not want as witnesses as mental, and it’s an accusation they never are forced to prove, so it is easy for cops to make mental accusations, it discredits the victim as a witness, and police do not have to prove the accusation.

    Since the victims parents are connected to law enforcement and the victim was homeless I have every reason to believe the father wanted his son dead and had his pals in the police department to murder him off for them, and I believe it was personal since the father of the victim was in law enforcement and I believe the cops enjoyed torturing the victim to death by battering and by electrocution!

    Many people that get poisoned by police by the use of meds end up being locked up in old folks homes, the government debilitates the victim using meds and locks them up in old folks homes that have fences with locked electronic gates and they get away with this without ever having trials, any trial,

    They debilitate their victims using Demoral forced on them and they get locked up in old folks homes without trials or due process or attorney’s, and if they try to find help or escape this illegal torture and try to find help they get hunted down by cops that fake the victim resisted arrest and they just batter the person to death and then have their pals in the news media spew out ONLY the cops side of events!

  40. Terry WagarOctober 12, 2014 at 12:05 amReply

    Looking at the victims “before the attack” photo I can tell they had him on Demoral, Demoral deforms the face of the person that takes the prescription and makes them look retarded!

    To call this debilitated victim Schizophrenic is just an outright lie, police will say anything to vilify and discredit their battered victims and it is common practice for all first responders to label people mentally ill to discredit them as witnesses!

    Have you ever witnessed a cop or multiple cops commit a crime? if you do and you try to tell people about it or you call 91 to report it what usually happens is the cops right off the bat will treat you as though you are mentally ill, they usually smirk while doing it too, so that should give you an idea as to what type of people we have for cops in this country!

    This person that was battered is a victim, a long time victim that was being kept debilitated by prescription drugs and probably was locked up without a trial in an old folks home that has fences with locked gates to keep people in, and in his attempt to find help gets battered and tortured and murdered by grinning smirking cops that fake he’s resisting to fake justifying murdering off the victim!

    The father is an outright liar because he did not give a rats ass his son was homeless and probably asked his buddy’s in the police department to “Get rid of him” for the father so he wont have to deal with it any more!

    Many old folks homes throughout the USA have younger people in their twenty’s and thirty’s locked up in them and they are literally locked up, no courts, no trials, no attorney’s, and people that get this treatment by the government usually do not last long enough to see their forty’s!

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